# How This Real Estate Investor is Betting on an AI Boom (It’s Not Data Centers) | Tom Shapiro

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Podcast: [Monetary Matters with Jack Farley](https://stenobird.com/podcast/monetary-matters-with-jack-farley-7021905)
Published: 2026-05-26T15:53:00+00:00
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## Resource

Learn more about the Fundrise Income Fund here: https://fundrise.com/mm In this episode of Other People's Money, GTIS Partners founder and CIO Tom Shapiro breaks down how massive macroeconomic shifts, including AI and inflation, are reshaping the global real estate landscape. He explains why his firm is heavily betting on a San Francisco recovery driven by the booming AI sector, and how they are scooping up properties at steep discounts to replacement costs. Shapiro also details the severe oversupply challenges currently stalling popular Sun Belt cities, alongside the firm's strategic push into industrial logistics to capitalize on domestic reshoring trends. Finally, he shares decades of expertise on navigating the complex Brazilian real estate market, offering a masterclass on global investment strategies in a high-interest-rate environment. Learn more about GTIS Partners: https://www.gtispartners.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Macro Shocks and Inflation 02:30 AI Disruption Risks 04:27 Tracking Jobs and Households 06:09 Immigration and Rate Politics 08:03 Build to Rent Bill Fallout 11:57 Affordability and Mortgage Rates 14:41 Fundrise Income Fund 16:36 Regional Winners and Losers 17:12 Sun Belt Oversupply Pain 19:57 San Francisco Comeback Thesis 24:35 AI Occupancy and Investment Plays 28:28 Picking Buildings Block by Block 30:02 Picking the Right Building 30:21 Safety and City Recovery 33:39 AI Jobs and Office Demand 35:17 Froth and Real Revenues 37:39 Data Centers NIMBY Debate 39:54 Reshoring and Warehouse Boom 44:09 Real Estate Capital Markets 49:07 Why Brazil Worked 52:…

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