# Bunker Busters and B-2s

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Podcast: [Modern War Institute](https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-war-institute-433892)
Published: 2025-07-02T13:26:38+00:00
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## Resource

When the United States conducted Operation Midnight Hammer, a series of strikes against Iranian nuclear targets, it did so with two key pieces of exquisite hardware: the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator and the B-2 Spirit strategic bomber. But how does the GBU-57 actually work? And what’s it like to fly this type of long-range bomber mission in a B-2? To examine those questions, John Amble is joined on this episode by Air Force University’s Dr. Melvin Deaile, a retired Air Force colonel and strategic bomber pilot with operational combat experience in the B-2. The MWI Podcast is produced with the generous support of the West Point Class of 1974.

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