# Trying: Navigating the Emotions of Infertility and Loss with Liz Swenson and Alessa Martin Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-mom-probs-5242400/trying-navigating-the-emotions-of-infertility-and-loss-with-liz-swenson-and-alessa-martin Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-mom-probs-5242400/trying-navigating-the-emotions-of-infertility-and-loss-with-liz-swenson-and-alessa-martin.md Podcast: [Modern Mom Probs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-mom-probs-5242400) Published: 2026-06-02T11:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://bleav.com/shows/modern-mom-probs/?post_type=gp_podcast_episode&p=286 Audio file: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/prfx.byspotify.com/e/injector.simplecastaudio.com/98d1aceb-af9f-490b-a8d2-aa493e4b7044/episodes/b0f24221-fb4c-4cbd-a64b-a7534d358b4f/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=98d1aceb-af9f-490b-a8d2-aa493e4b7044&awEpisodeId=b0f24221-fb4c-4cbd-a64b-a7534d358b4f&feed=lth1fPf8 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/modern-mom-probs-5242400/episodes/trying-navigating-the-emotions-of-infertility-and-loss-with-liz-swenson-and-alessa-martin Duration seconds: 1828 ## Resource In this heartfelt episode, Tara sits down with authors Liz Swenson and Alessa Martin to discuss the deeply personal journey behind Trying, a powerful book created to support those navigating infertility, pregnancy loss, and the often-overlooked emotional challenges that accompany them. Liz and Alessa shares the inspiration behind the book, the importance of telling honest stories, and how creating space for these experiences can help individuals feel less isolated in their grief and uncertainty. They explore the emotional impact of fertility struggles and the need for greater compassion and understanding around these topics. The conversation also offers valuable insight into how friends, family members, and communities can better support loved ones facing infertility and loss. Liz, Alessa and Tara discuss the healing power of connection, the role of emotional support in the journey to parenthood, and why destigmatizing these experiences is so important. Whether you're personally navigating fertility challenges or looking to better support someone who is, this episode provides encouragement, understanding, and hope. Links: https://clubtrying.com/ https://www.instagram.com/clubtrying/ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/modern-mom-probs-5242400/episodes/trying-navigating-the-emotions-of-infertility-and-loss-with-liz-swenson-and-alessa-martin/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-mom-probs-5242400/trying-navigating-the-emotions-of-infertility-and-loss-with-liz-swenson-and-alessa-martin.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.