# Tech Titans: A Masterclass in Change Management with Ashley Goodall

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Podcast: [Modern CTO](https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977)
Published: 2026-03-16T11:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1369

## Resource

Things are changing faster than ever, but don’t let it affect your team. Today, we're talking to Ashley Goodall, leadership expert and bestselling author. We discuss why the management obsession with change is harming the people it's meant to help, how constant reorganization leads to learned helplessness and quiet quitting, and why the real goal should never be just change. All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast!

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