# Getting AI Apps Past the Demo // Vaibhav Gupta // #319 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mlops-community/getting-ai-apps-past-the-demo-vaibhav-gupta-319 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mlops-community/getting-ai-apps-past-the-demo-vaibhav-gupta-319.md Podcast: [MLOps.community](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mlops-community) Published: 2025-05-30T16:59:09+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mlops/episodes/Getting-AI-Apps-Past-the-Demo--Vaibhav-Gupta--319-e33iu7v Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/174cb1b8/podcast/play/103429823/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-30%2F401285949-44100-2-8c6e8a13d2f4a.mp3 Processing state: processed JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mlops-community/episodes/getting-ai-apps-past-the-demo-vaibhav-gupta-319 Duration seconds: 3029 ## Resource Getting AI Apps Past the Demo // MLOps Podcast #319 with Vaibhav Gupta, CEO of BoundaryML. Join the Community: https://go.mlops.community/YTJoinIn Get the newsletter: https://go.mlops.community/YTNewsletter // Abstract It's been two years, and we still seem to see AI disproportionately more in demos than production features. Why? And how can we apply engineering practices we've all learned in the past decades to our advantage here? // Bio Vaibhav is one of the creators of BAML and a YC alum. He spent 10 years in AI performance optimization at places like Google, Microsoft, and D.E. Shaw. He loves diving deep and chatting about anything related to Gen AI and Computer Vision! // Related Links Website: https://www.boundaryml.com/ ~~~~~~~~ ✌️Connect With Us ✌️ ~~~~~~~ Catch all episodes, blogs, newsletters, and more: https://go.mlops.community/TYExplore Join our Slack community [ https://go.mlops.community/slack ] Follow us on X/Twitter [ @mlopscommunity ]( https://x.com/mlopscommunity ) or [LinkedIn]( https://go.mlops.community/linkedin )] Sign up for the next meetup: [ https://go.mlops.community/register ] MLOps Swag/Merch: [ https://shop.mlops.community/ ] Connect with Demetrios on LinkedIn: /dpbrinkm Connect with Vaibhav on LinkedIn: /vaigup Timestamps: [00:00] Vaibhav's preferred coffee [00:38] What is BAML [03:07] LangChain Overengineering Issues [06:46] Verifiable English Explained [11:45] Python AI Integration Challenges [15:16] Strings as First-Class Code [21:45] Platform Gap in Development [30:06] Workflow Efficiency Tools [33:10] Surprising BAML Insights [40:43] BAML Cool Projects [45:54] BAML Developer Conversations [48:39] Wrap up ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mlops-community/episodes/getting-ai-apps-past-the-demo-vaibhav-gupta-319/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/mlops-community/getting-ai-apps-past-the-demo-vaibhav-gupta-319.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.