# Roundtable: Customer Teams vs Works Teams

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Podcast: [Missed Apex Formula 1 Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/missed-apex-formula-1-podcast-1036574)
Published: 2026-08-16T21:21:41+00:00
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## Resource

Missed Apex is entering F1, at least in theory. Spanners, Stevens and Catman sit down for our first Big Roundtable to decide what kind of team we would build: a full works manufacturer, a factory-backed partner, an independent customer, a technical client, a junior team or a takeover-and-rebadge operation. Using Cadillac’s sudden switch from Graeme Lowdon to Marcin Budkowski, McLaren’s 2026 customer-team problems, Haas and Dallara, Sauber’s many identities and the Red Bull/VCARB relationship, we ask what really makes a works team, how much independence matters and whether our aim should be winning championships or simply turning up and going racing. ⭐Missed Apex Tik Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@missedapexf1 ⭐ Spanners https://x.com/SpannersReady https://bsky.app/profile/spannersready.bsky.social ⭐Matt Trumpets https://x.com/mattpt55 https://bsky.app/profile/mattpt55.bsky.social Ways To Support Missed Apex: ✅ Join our Patreon to gain access to our exclusive Patreon Only Discord Chat + Bonus Content We Only Exist Due to Our Patron Support https://www.patreon.com/MissedApex ✅ Leave a tip https://missedapexpodcast.com/tipjar On Tonight’s Show: ⭐ Spanners https://x.com/SpannersReady https://bsky.app/profile/spannersready.bsky.social ⭐ Chris Stevens https://www.instagram.com/chrisonracing/ https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisonracing ⭐ Chris ‘Catman’ Turner https://x.com/catmanf1 https://thecatdoctor.co.uk/ THE CAT DOCTOR Give us a shout on WhatsApp! Save +44 79 4747 1840 if you are interested in calling into a show or sending us things you reckon Come iRacing with us!!! Join the Missed Apex British F4 iRacing Championship! 6 rounds, UK tracks only, through the Missed Apex iRacing League! Email spanners@missedapex.net to join the fun!!! Give Spanners Insta a go!!! https://www.instag…

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