# #96 - Saved for Good Works: How Toby Weiss Built a Tech Career in Service of the Kingdom

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Podcast: [Ministry At Scale](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ministry-at-scale-1132181)
Published: 2026-05-01T20:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://ministry-at-scale.captivate.fm
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Duration seconds: 2692

## Resource

Most ministries don't have a technology problem — they have a strategy problem. Toby Weiss, Co-Founder and CEO of Rooted Software, spent 14 years as the Global CIO of Jews for Jesus before launching a company with one purpose: helping ministries stop patch-working technology together and start wielding it strategically. In this episode, Toby shares what he's learned across hundreds of ministry engagements — and why the hardest part of a CRM rollout has nothing to do with software. Key Takeaways The "hodgepodge" trap is real — and costly. Ministries often solve technology problems one at a time, leading to a patchwork of disconnected systems. Toby explains why reaching a point of strategic maturity — typically around $1–2M in annual revenue — is when organizations need to step back and make deliberate, integrated technology decisions. Outsourced IT is often smarter than in-house. For ministries with fewer than 150 staff, Toby makes a compelling case that outsourced IT delivers broader expertise, greater availability, and lower cost than hiring internally — often cutting IT expenses by 50% or more while actually increasing service levels. Not all CRMs are created equal — and the wrong fit is expensive. Toby walks through key decision variables: Is the vendor primarily serving nonprofits or faith-based organizations? Do you need an off-the-shelf solution like Virtuous, or a more customizable platform like SiteStacker? Is best-of-breed or all-in-one the right fit for your organization's workflow? Data migrations are harder than they look. With well over 100 migrations completed, Toby explains why moving from one CRM to another isn't a simple export/import — it involves complex field mapping, business process changes, merge/purge logic, and multiple QA cycles. Treating it s…

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