# “People Call Me Crazy”: Three Contrarian Macro Trades from Tavi Costa Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mining-stock-education-1396689/people-call-me-crazy-three-contrarian-macro-trades-from-tavi-costa Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mining-stock-education-1396689/people-call-me-crazy-three-contrarian-macro-trades-from-tavi-costa.md Podcast: [Mining Stock Education](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mining-stock-education-1396689) Published: 2026-03-26T11:26:12+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/people-call-me-crazy-three-contrarian-macro-trades-from-tavi-costa--70894632 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70894632/2290866827_miningstockeducation_people_call_me_crazy_three.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mining-stock-education-1396689/episodes/people-call-me-crazy-three-contrarian-macro-trades-from-tavi-costa Duration seconds: 2166 ## Resource Tavi Costa, founder and CEO of Azuria Capital, reveals three contrarian macro trades for which, he says, “people will call me crazy.” He also discusses the recent gold sell-off, which Costa argues does not fit a typical liquidation event since equities and treasuries were not crashing; he suggests an alternative possibility that Iran or other gray-area actors may have sold gold accumulated via oil trade outside the dollar system. Costa says the pullback created an oversold buying opportunity and expects gold to be multiples higher over 5–10 years, driven by dollar devaluation tied to U.S. twin deficits, central-bank buying, stagnant mine supply, deglobalization, and portfolio reallocation toward gold. He also addresses multipolarity and petrodollar concerns, favoring gradual shifts rather than a near-term reserve-currency change. Costa describes rotating across commodities, taking profits in energy, buying gold and quality miners, and adding contrarian options positions. 00:00 Intro 00:45 Gold Sell-off Explained 02:52 Middle East Gold Rumors 04:31 Buying the Dip 06:17 Gold Drivers Long Term 10:08 Petrodollar and Multipolarity 12:37 Commodity Rotation Strategy 15:40 How He Buys Gold 17:29 Three Mispriced Bets 20:29 Most Contrarian Wins 24:33 Brazil and Emerging Markets 26:59 Zeria Capital Mission 31:32 Where to Follow Tavi https://x.com/TaviCosta https://tavicosta.substack.com/ Sign up for our free newsletter and receive interview transcripts, stock profiles and investment ideas: http://eepurl.com/cHxJ39 This was not a sponsored interview. Mining Stock Education (MSE) offers informational content based on available data but it does not constitute investment, tax, or legal advice. It may not be appropriate for all situations or objectives. Readers and listeners should se… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mining-stock-education-1396689/episodes/people-call-me-crazy-three-contrarian-macro-trades-from-tavi-costa/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/mining-stock-education-1396689/people-call-me-crazy-three-contrarian-macro-trades-from-tavi-costa.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.