# Minds Over Matter July 4 2026

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Podcast: [Minds Over Matter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/minds-over-matter-161364)
Published: 2026-07-03T18:51:49+00:00
Episode link: https://www.kalw.org/show/minds-over-matter/2026-07-03/minds-over-matter-july-4-2026
Audio file: https://cpa.ds.npr.org/s2/audio/2026/07/mom70426.mp3
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Duration seconds: 3581

## Resource

with Dana Rodriguez and panel

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