# What is the end game of building ?

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Podcast: [Mindful Builder](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mindful-builder-6841919)
Published: 2026-06-07T17:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://mindful-builder.captivate.fm
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“Do we want 1.2 million crappy houses?” That’s the question Jesse Clark (pro clima) drops early in this episode, and it pretty much sets the tone. We talk about Australian housing supply, building quality, and why “more homes” is not the win if we’re locking in mould risk, discomfort, and expensive fixes for decades. If you care about better homes, healthier homes, and what the future of construction should actually look like, this one’s for you. Jesse’s whole approach is simple and repeatable building systems. We look at practical building science for real sites: the building envelope, airtightness, membranes, wraps, and the kind of construction details that can be done consistently across projects without relying on luck or one superstar tradie. A big focus is moisture management and ventilation, because moisture safety is the foundation of durable homes. We get into vapour-permeable assemblies, how leaky buildings happen, and why mould in Australian homes is often the outcome of small decisions made early. We also touch on the debate around energy efficiency and building codes (NCC), and how chasing energy targets without understanding moisture can create unintended consequences. If you’re a builder, architect, designer, certifier, or homeowner trying to understand high performance homes without the hype, this conversation will help. Topics include sustainable building, passive house principles, condensation control, indoor air quality, and what it takes to build homes that last in Australian climate zones. 👇 CHAPTER MARKERS 👇 00:00 Meet Jesse Clarke 01:03 Simple Repeatable Systems 01:36 Australia Study Origins 02:12 Healthy Envelope Basics 03:21 Tropics Mould Reality 05:33 Future Building Trajectory 07:17 Carbon Versus Health 10:24 Energy Code Debate 15:10 Density…

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