# Food, ritual, and what it means to be human Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/food-ritual-and-what-it-means-to-be-human Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/food-ritual-and-what-it-means-to-be-human.md Podcast: [Mind, Body, Spirit, FOOD: Nourishment On and Beyond The Plate](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807) Published: 2026-04-15T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://mindbodyspiritfood.substack.com/p/marije-vogelzang Audio file: https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/193702795/46585b456b1fb011b0574a42e1f67514.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/episodes/food-ritual-and-what-it-means-to-be-human Duration seconds: 2549 ## Resource In this episode, I’m joined by Marije Vogelzang, a pioneering Dutch food designer who uses food as a medium to explore human connection, emotion, and experience. While we often think of food as flavor or nutrition, Marije invites us to see it as something much deeper—a way to access memory, create meaning, and reconnect with ourselves and each other. This conversation explores food as ritual, as play, and as a powerful tool for presence. We also dive into the parts of food we often avoid—the connection to death, transformation, and the unseen processes that make nourishment possible—and how embracing these realities can deepen our gratitude and sense of aliveness. Toward the end, Marije shares a simple, playful way to make your meals more meaningful—something you can try at your own table tonight. Links and Resources * Mind, Body, Spirit, FOOD Newsletter: https://mindbodyspiritfood.substack.com/ * Order Nicki's new book: https://fromscratchfast.com/nicki-sizemore/ * Find Nicki on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nickisizemore * Marije’s website: www.marijevogelzang.nl * Food Design Playground: www.fooddesignplayground.nl * Find Marije on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marije_vogelzang/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mindbodyspiritfood.substack.com/subscribe ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/episodes/food-ritual-and-what-it-means-to-be-human/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/food-ritual-and-what-it-means-to-be-human.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.