# Desert Magic, Soulful Food & the Art of Following Your Gut Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/desert-magic-soulful-food-the-art-of-following-your-gut Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/desert-magic-soulful-food-the-art-of-following-your-gut.md Podcast: [Mind, Body, Spirit, FOOD: Nourishment On and Beyond The Plate](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807) Published: 2026-06-10T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://mindbodyspiritfood.substack.com/p/nikki-hill-claire-wadsworth Audio file: https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/201165980/8f525bd79db7e3e7a96a2edbf31c43bb.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/episodes/desert-magic-soulful-food-the-art-of-following-your-gut Duration seconds: 3163 ## Resource What happens when you hand a stranger all your savings in cash, buy a restaurant in the middle of the Mojave desert on a feeling, and build something extraordinary from scratch? You get La Copine. This week I sat down with Nikki Hill and Claire Wadsworth — the couple and creative duo behind one of the most talked-about destination restaurants in the California desert and authors of the new cookbook by the same name, La Copine . We talk about the deeply intertwined worlds of food, love, intuition, and what it actually takes to build something magical. This conversation goes everywhere — from a vision quest in Bryce Canyon to ancient aquifers beneath the desert floor, from writing wedding vows as a song to the genius of rice flour on eggplant. One of my favorites yet. Links and resources mentioned in the show * Mind, Body, Spirit, FOOD Newsletter: https://mindbodyspiritfood.substack.com/ * Order Nicki's new book: https://fromscratchfast.com/nicki-sizemore/ * Find Nicki on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nickisizemore * La Copine Cookbook : https://bookshop.org/a/114665/9781419778223 * La Copine restaurant: https://www.lacopinekitchen.com/ * Follow La Copine on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lacopinekitchen/ * Claire’s music: https://cestclairemusic.com/ * The Songs of La Copine : https://open.spotify.com/album/7CZ35vOl9PzzLkgnS2r8PA?si=Z_JVtnTrQ46xoiGHWHMh_Q * Italian Wannabe documentary (Claire’s stepdad): https://italianwannabe.com/ * Integraton: https://www.integratron.com/ * Matais de Stephano: https://matiasdestefano.org/en/frontpage/ * Hungry for more? Listen to all of the season 7 episodes here: https://mindbodyspiritfood.substack.com/podcast This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes,… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/episodes/desert-magic-soulful-food-the-art-of-following-your-gut/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/mind-body-spirit-food-nourishment-on-and-beyond-the-plate-5952807/desert-magic-soulful-food-the-art-of-following-your-gut.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.