# E59: Why Change Feels So Hard (and Necessary): Jessie Harold on Matrescence and the Evolution of Motherhood Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mighty-as-a-mother-6380020/e59-why-change-feels-so-hard-and-necessary-jessie-harold-on-matrescence-and-the-evolution-of-motherhood Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/mighty-as-a-mother-6380020/e59-why-change-feels-so-hard-and-necessary-jessie-harold-on-matrescence-and-the-evolution-of-motherhood.md Podcast: [Mighty As A Mother](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mighty-as-a-mother-6380020) Published: 2025-09-11T14:49:00+00:00 Episode link: https://e5058bdc-f068-4c57-b7e0-b16991dd6b02.libsyn.com/e59-why-change-feels-so-hard-and-necessary-jessie-harold-on-matrescence-and-the-evolution-of-motherhood Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/e5058bdc-f068-4c57-b7e0-b16991dd6b02/0001_Jessie_Harold.mp3?dest-id=4268708 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mighty-as-a-mother-6380020/episodes/e59-why-change-feels-so-hard-and-necessary-jessie-harold-on-matrescence-and-the-evolution-of-motherhood Duration seconds: 2319 ## Resource If you've ever looked in the mirror and thought, "Who even am I anymore?" — this one's for you. In today's episode, we're joined by author, coach, doula, and researcher Jessie Harold , who's spent nearly two decades walking alongside women through one of the most profound identity shifts of their lives: becoming a mother. We dive deep into matrescence — the emotional, psychological, and spiritual transformation of motherhood — and why understanding it might just be the permission slip you've been waiting for. Whether you're still in the baby trenches or facing new transitions (hello, kindergarten drop-off or career reinvention), this episode will give you the language, validation, and tools to hold both the grief and the growth. You'll hear: Why motherhood is a rite of passage — and how it mirrors adolescence The truth about "losing yourself" (hint: you're not broken, you're becoming) What to do when you're stuck in the "in-between" — that sacred pause where identity hasn't caught up with reality How to use grief as a guide through transformation Why modern motherhood feels lonelier and more demanding — and how systems (not just individuals) are to blame The power of tiny, safe-to-fail experiments when you're reimagining your life Whether you're navigating the early days of postpartum or in the thick of a new season, Jessie's wisdom is a balm and a compass. "We fear losing ourselves in motherhood. But sometimes, that's exactly what we need in order to truly thrive." Links + Resources: Jessie Harold's website: jessieharold.com Book: Mothershift: Reclaiming Motherhood as a Rite of Passage The MotherShift and The Becoming podcast The Birth of a Mother – NYT Article Jessie on Instagram: @jessie.es.haro For more honest, empowering conversations around motherhood, identity,… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mighty-as-a-mother-6380020/episodes/e59-why-change-feels-so-hard-and-necessary-jessie-harold-on-matrescence-and-the-evolution-of-motherhood/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/mighty-as-a-mother-6380020/e59-why-change-feels-so-hard-and-necessary-jessie-harold-on-matrescence-and-the-evolution-of-motherhood.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.