# Build AI Agents by Voice, Not Workflows

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Podcast: [Microsoft Innovation Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/microsoft-innovation-podcast-232124)
Published: 2026-04-08T18:00:00+00:00
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Get featured on the show by leaving us a Voice Mail: https://bit.ly/MIPVM Ragnar Heil shares hands-on lessons from building and running autonomous agents with OpenClaw. He compares conversational, agent-first workflows with traditional automation tools, highlights real infrastructure and security trade-offs, and explains why this kind of experimentation accelerates deep understanding of agent architecture. The conversation explores where Copilot fits today, what breaks in early-stage agent...

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