# Michael Shellenberger on His Rogan Interview, Gavin Newsom & Leftist Insanity | “YOUR WELCOME” #413

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Podcast: [Michael Malice on Odysee](https://stenobird.com/podcast/michael-malice-on-odysee-5391561)
Published: 2026-04-29T22:14:54+00:00
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Is California collapsing, or is it the blueprint for what comes next? Michael Malice (“YOUR WELCOME”) sits down with author, journalist, and non-partisan commentator Michael Shellenberger, to discuss his viral Rogan interview, what it’s like to run against Gavin Newsom, and how the modern left is pushing the accelerator on California’s decline. The two talk about the cause of today’s political and cultural turmoil, if “woke” is evolving or fading, and what’s instigating the fading optimism inside the Democratic Party. The conversation also ventures into darker terrain, covering Epstein, the coded language inside the files, and the unsettling public fascination with conspiracy itself. MICHAEL SHELLENBERGER https://x.com/shellenberger https://www.public.news/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/0063421577 MICHAEL MALICE Pre-Order UNWANTED – A TALE OF THE OLD WEST AND THE NEW WAVE: https://UnwantedBook.com Order THE WHITE PILL: http://whitepillbook.com/ Order THE ANARCHIST HANDBOOK: https://www.amzn.com/B095DVF8FJ Order THE NEW RIGHT: https://amzn.to/2IFFCCu Order DEAR READER: https://t.co/vZfTVkK6qf?amp=1 https://twitter.com/michaelmalice https://instagram.com/michaelmalice https://malice.locals.com https://youtube.com/michaelmaliceofficial Intro song: "Out of Reach" by Legendary House Cats https://thelegendaryhousecats.bandcamp.com/ The newest episode of "YOUR WELCOME" releases on iTunes and YouTube every Wednesday! Please subscribe and leave a review. This week’s sponsors: PlutoTV – Streaming TV: https://www.Pluto.tv (Free TV) Sheath - Dual Pouch Underwear: https://www.sheath.com , promo code: MALICE (20% off) ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poi-vW3Nge4

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