# Metal on Metal - Massa Nera "The Emptiness of All Things" Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/metal-on-metal-818462/metal-on-metal-massa-nera-the-emptiness-of-all-things Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/metal-on-metal-818462/metal-on-metal-massa-nera-the-emptiness-of-all-things.md Podcast: [Metal on Metal](https://stenobird.com/podcast/metal-on-metal-818462) Published: 2025-10-28T23:13:22+00:00 Episode link: https://metal-on-metal.zencast.website/episodes/metal-on-metal-massa-nera-the-emptiness-of-all-things Audio file: https://media.zencast.fm/metal-on-metal/b3cdfad8-53e7-4dc4-b005-1fb9304854bb.mp3?source=feed Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/metal-on-metal-818462/episodes/metal-on-metal-massa-nera-the-emptiness-of-all-things Duration seconds: 3498 ## Resource On this episode of Metal on Metal, we sat down with Mark Boulanger of the New Jersey based heavy band Massa Nera. In this interview, we discuss their upcoming album The Emptiness of All Things . We also discuss capitalism, the skramz label, constantly pushing yourself, the blog era, and synthetic 2000s indie rock. This episode is brought to you by Pull the Plug Patches and Third Moon Brewery. Use code "metalonmetal" to get free beer shipping to most places in Ontario from Third Moon Brewery at thirdmoonbrewing.com. Links mentioned in this episode: https://massanera.bandcamp.com/album/the-emptiness-of-all-things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72nj_mdd7Rc&list=RD72nj_mdd7Rc&start_radio=1 This podcast is hosted by ZenCast.fm ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/metal-on-metal-818462/episodes/metal-on-metal-massa-nera-the-emptiness-of-all-things/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/metal-on-metal-818462/metal-on-metal-massa-nera-the-emptiness-of-all-things.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.