# Keto as an Adjunct to CBTp? Nicole Laurent Explains Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/metabolic-mind-6253550/keto-as-an-adjunct-to-cbtp-nicole-laurent-explains Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/metabolic-mind-6253550/keto-as-an-adjunct-to-cbtp-nicole-laurent-explains.md Podcast: [Metabolic Mind](https://stenobird.com/podcast/metabolic-mind-6253550) Published: 2026-05-29T15:37:00+00:00 Episode link: https://metabolicmind.org/ Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/dbaae925-d5d4-476d-8a9b-41db9c399feb.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/metabolic-mind-6253550/episodes/keto-as-an-adjunct-to-cbtp-nicole-laurent-explains Duration seconds: 1352 ## Resource Could ketogenic therapy help people with schizophrenia spectrum disorders engage more successfully with CBT? A new conceptual framework explores this powerful adjunctive approach. CBTp is considered a gold-standard treatment for schizophrenia spectrum disorders, but many patients struggle to initiate, participate in, and complete it. Cognitive deficits, sleep disturbances, low distress tolerance, and ongoing psychotic symptoms can all stand in the way. In this conversation, Dr. Bret Scher sits down with licensed clinical social worker Nicole Laurent to discuss her recently published paper in Frontiers in Psychology, exploring how ketogenic metabolic therapy could help bridge that gap. In this conversation, you'll learn: Why CBTp is so cognitively demanding and where patients tend to struggle How ketogenic therapy may reduce key barriers like sleep issues, distress tolerance, and cognitive impairment What a conceptual analysis paper is and why it matters for shaping future research How clinicians and researchers can begin integrating these ideas into practice Whether this framework could extend to CBT for depression, OCD, and anxiety This discussion opens the door to thinking about ketogenic therapy not only as a direct treatment for psychiatric symptoms, but as a powerful adjunctive tool that could help patients engage more fully with the rest of their care. ๐Ÿ‘‰ Research focused on ketogenic therapy and schizophrenia continues to grow, check out the latest on our Schizophrenia Topic Page: metabolicmind.org/resources/topics/schizophrenia/ ๐Ÿ”Ž Have questions about how to apply metabolic therapies effectively? Submit them at metabolicmind.org/questions to be featured in a future Metabolic Mailbag episode. #KetogenicTherapy #MetabolicMind #Schizophrenia Expert Featured: Nicoleโ€ฆ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/metabolic-mind-6253550/episodes/keto-as-an-adjunct-to-cbtp-nicole-laurent-explains/transcription-requests` โ€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/metabolic-mind-6253550/keto-as-an-adjunct-to-cbtp-nicole-laurent-explains.md` โ€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.