# TWOCPT Ep. 88 | What Is Consciousness? Part 5: AI — Intelligence Without a Soul?

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Podcast: [MBR Talk Rewinds](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mbr-talk-rewinds-6722124)
Published: 2026-09-14T16:10:47+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mbrtalk/episodes/TWOCPT-Ep--88--What-Is-Consciousness--Part-5-AI--Intelligence-Without-a-Soul-e3oradm
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Duration seconds: 9887

## Resource

Can artificial intelligence truly think—or is it simply reflecting the humans who created and trained it? In Part 5 of TWOCPT’s six-part “What Is Consciousness?” series, MJ takes a deep dive into the history and evolution of AI, human influence, political and corporate power, technology dependence, and the growing role artificial intelligence plays in our everyday lives. From early AI research to today’s generative systems, MJ asks a bigger question: If a machine can reason, communicate, recognize patterns, and imitate human thought, does that make it conscious? And if intelligence can exist without conscious experience, what separates human consciousness from artificial intelligence? 🎙️ The World of Conscious Positive Thinking with MJ — Episode 88

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