# Part Two: UFOs in Religion: The Hidden Link Between Ancient “Miracles” and Modern Aliens | Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka

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Podcast: [Mayim Bialik's Breakdown](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mayim-bialik-s-breakdown-1365756)
Published: 2026-07-15T07:30:00+00:00
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Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka — professor of religious studies, author of The Others: UFOs, AI, and the Secret Forces Guiding Human Destiny — is here to answer one of the most controversial and fascinating questions of our time: what if many of humanity’s oldest spiritual encounters weren’t interpreted correctly at all? Dr. Pasulka breaks down: - Shocking similarities between alien abductions & purgatory that first pulled her into UAP research - Whether historical Catholic supernatural experiences would be interpreted today as UFO encounters - Why many researchers believe we need to radically rethink the concept of “aliens” - Physiology of UAP encounters and how experiencers may access altered states or different parts of the brain - Carl Jung’s theory that UFOs could emerge from the unconscious mind - Why belief in nonhuman intelligence is rapidly increasing, and why it may function as a modern religion - Reports throughout Catholic history describing encounters with nonhuman entities - Whether aerospace engineers and scientists are receiving “downloads” or ideas from nonhuman intelligence - Recent deaths and disappearances of scientists connected to nuclear and aerospace programs (Are they connected to UAP research?) - Why proof of nonhuman intelligence may NOT destroy religious belief - Why some people believe AI could be the antichrist, while others think resisting AI is the true danger - Whether governments are in a position to confirm historical religious events - Psychedelics, altered states, and historical encounters with nonhuman intelligence - Why certain people appear far more open to supernatural experiences than others - Hidden role sci-fi plays as a framework for understanding modern UFO phenomena - Real function of religion and how humanity uses belief sys…

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