# Leadership Will Cost You | Earl, Jabin & John | Mature Me | EP 103

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Podcast: [Mature Me w/ Rich Wilkerson Jr.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mature-me-w-rich-wilkerson-jr-6771429)
Published: 2026-07-21T23:30:01+00:00
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## Resource

What you can withstand? THAT’S what leadership is On this episode of Mature Me, I sit down with my dear friends @earlmcclellan, @jabinchavez, and @johntermini for a conversation about vision, leadership and the cost of following God’s call. Sometimes vision is not a full picture. It is simply enough light for the next step. We talk about how vision gives pain purpose, why your burden may be connected to your assignment, and what it takes to keep leading through growing pains. We also go deeper into marriage, lust, sexual immorality, studying the Bible, and the difference between collecting information and becoming a disciple. The platform is easy. Dependency is costly. It is in the pressing, the crushing, and the messy parts of the process that God forms us. Tune into the premiere tonight at 7:30 PM on the Rich Wilkerson Jr. YouTube Channel 🔗

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