# The Pain of Perfectionism with Cass Seidler

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Podcast: [Masterpiece](https://stenobird.com/podcast/masterpiece-7038584)
Published: 2026-01-15T19:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

I always thought perfectionism was a bit of a humble brag — a flaw that was actually a strength. Something that helped you get ahead. Then I read an article in The New Yorker, and everything changed. I realised perfectionism isn’t something to gloat about at all. It’s a debilitating way of being, with deep roots, that can quietly stop you from living, creating, and connecting. In this conversation, I sit down with Cass Seidler, psychologist and recovering perfectionist. Together, we unpack wh...

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