# The Integration Era with Madeleine Gottlieb

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Podcast: [Masterpiece](https://stenobird.com/podcast/masterpiece-7038584)
Published: 2026-03-12T19:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4508

## Resource

Last year Madeleine Gottlieb spent 53 days in the South Australian desert directing a television series, working 18-hour days in intense conditions — an experience she describes as physically, emotionally and mentally taxing, and completely life-changing. In this conversation we talk about the role friction plays in creative expression, what happens when the plan falls apart (like the day a brown snake appeared on set), and why understanding the feeling underneath what you’re trying to create...

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