# The Financial Side of Massage Therapy No One Teaches You with Guest Danielle Hayden Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/massage-business-success-7096045/the-financial-side-of-massage-therapy-no-one-teaches-you-with-guest-danielle-hayden Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/massage-business-success-7096045/the-financial-side-of-massage-therapy-no-one-teaches-you-with-guest-danielle-hayden.md Podcast: [Massage. Business. Success.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/massage-business-success-7096045) Published: 2026-05-12T01:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.amybradleyradford.com/podcasts/massage-business-success/episodes/2149204280 Audio file: https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149204280.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/massage-business-success-7096045/episodes/the-financial-side-of-massage-therapy-no-one-teaches-you-with-guest-danielle-hayden Duration seconds: 2560 ## Resource Most massage therapists are tracking their schedule, their clients, and how exhausted they feel at the end of the week… but not their numbers. And if you’re trying to build a business that actually supports you long term, eventually you have to stop guessing financially. In this episode, I sit down with Danielle Hayden, founder of Kickstart Accounting, to talk about the emotional side of money, why so many therapists avoid their numbers, and how understanding your finances can completely change the way you run your business. This conversation goes far beyond bookkeeping. We talk about burnout, money mindset, paying yourself consistently, separating personal and business expenses, building a support team, and why your numbers are actually one of the most powerful tools you have as a business owner. Danielle shares practical guidance on: What a financially healthy massage business actually looks like Whether a six-figure income is realistic for solo therapists Why avoiding your numbers creates more burnout The importance of paying yourself as a business owner When to consider becoming an S-Corp How to stop making emotional business decisions Why the goal is actually to pay taxes The four people every business owner should have on their “money team. One of my favorite parts of this conversation is how grounded and human it is. There’s no shame here, no pressure to “have it all figured out.” Just honest conversation about learning how to build a business that truly supports your life. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the financial side of your business, this episode will help you look at your numbers in a completely different way. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to Financial Awareness for Therapists 02:41 Understanding the Importance of Numbers in Business 05:23 Overcoming… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/massage-business-success-7096045/episodes/the-financial-side-of-massage-therapy-no-one-teaches-you-with-guest-danielle-hayden/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/massage-business-success-7096045/the-financial-side-of-massage-therapy-no-one-teaches-you-with-guest-danielle-hayden.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.