# Ep 426 Gratitude, Attitude, Courage: What Summer Camp Taught These Two About Marriage w/Kate & Cole Kelly

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Podcast: [Marriage Therapy Radio](https://stenobird.com/podcast/marriage-therapy-radio-716729)
Published: 2026-05-26T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://marriagetherapyradio.com/2026/05/25/ep-426-gratitude-attitude-courage-what-summer-camp-taught-these-two-about-marriage-w-kate-cole-kelly/
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Duration seconds: 2716

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Zach sits down with Kate and Cole Kelly, married co-directors of Camp Equahic in northeastern Pennsylvania and the authors behind the relationship practice they built almost by accident: Three Happys and an Appreciation. What started as a long-distance dating ritual, Kate asking Cole to name three things that made him happy each day just so she could get to know him, became the through line of a 25-year marriage, a shared business, three sons, and a camp community that now serves 450 kids per session from 15 states and 14 countries. The conversation moves across a lot of terrain. Cole grew up in Athens, Georgia, went to Dartmouth, coached golf at the University of Virginia, and came to camp life through Kate, who had already found her footing running a boarding school and never wanted to be in a classroom. Together they took over a camp that was quietly dying after a family ownership dispute, grew it back from the ground up, and built their philosophy around three values they believe transcend religion, background, and age: gratitude, attitude, and courage. Along the way they layered in everything from Viktor Frankl and Tony Robbins to Alison Armstrong's research on how men and women communicate differently, and applied all of it to the work of staying close while also running a business that puts 675 souls in their care every summer. The emotional center of this episode is surprisingly practical. Kate and Cole are not people who talk about their marriage in abstractions. They talk about the appreciation Cole had to ask for because Kate was falling asleep before he got it. They talk about what it cost Kate for Cole to travel most of the year meeting families in person, and why they kept doing it anyway. They built a coming-of-age ritual for their three boys because the…

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