# Digital PR Is How You Get Cited by ChatGPT Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/digital-pr-is-how-you-get-cited-by-chatgpt Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/digital-pr-is-how-you-get-cited-by-chatgpt.md Podcast: [Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips](https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700) Published: 2026-09-10T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ESHO3271014932.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ESHO3271014932.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/episodes/digital-pr-is-how-you-get-cited-by-chatgpt Duration seconds: 1287 ## Resource Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Eric asks Neil to finally explain digital PR and how it helps with AEO and SEO. Neil gets there via a Huawei phone with a screen on the back, how ByteDance ran AI inside Lark two years before the rest of us, where America really ranks in K-12 education (34th, per Google AI Mode), what China mandates instead, and the FOMO playbook behind Alpha School's marketing. Then the answer: digital PR is the new link building, you're optimizing for the mention, not the link, and you want your product included everywhere the models read. They close on the only marketing advantage that compounds: consistency. Key takeaways◾Digital PR is optimizing for the mention, not the link. That's what the models read◾America ranks 34th in K-12; China mandates 9 years and tracks 40% into vocational paths◾Consistency compounds. Grey-hat wins evaporate, and one channel is never enough Chapters00:00 What is digital PR, actually?00:27 Huawei's phone with a screen on the back01:07 ByteDance and Lark were doing this two years ago02:43 America is 34th in K-12 (Google AI Mode)05:36 Compulsory schooling: US vs China06:14 Alpha School's FOMO marketing10:28 Digital PR: optimize for the mention15:15 Consistency compounds ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/episodes/digital-pr-is-how-you-get-cited-by-chatgpt/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/digital-pr-is-how-you-get-cited-by-chatgpt.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.