# Clear the Runway: How to Turn Top Performers Into Great Leaders Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-4-business-5635283/clear-the-runway-how-to-turn-top-performers-into-great-leaders Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-4-business-5635283/clear-the-runway-how-to-turn-top-performers-into-great-leaders.md Podcast: [Marketing 4 Business](https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-4-business-5635283) Published: 2026-09-30T19:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.getdigitalinfluence.com/marketing-4-business-podcast/ Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/be08bf5a-8a7b-48f8-953e-bc6e2197d345.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-4-business-5635283/episodes/clear-the-runway-how-to-turn-top-performers-into-great-leaders Duration seconds: 4156 ## Resource You promoted your best person. So why does it feel like something has gone wrong? In this Marketing 4 Business episode , Scott welcomes back Amy Jones, leadership coach and founder of Human Impact leadership , to unpack why capable people struggle when they step into leadership, and what business owners can do about it. Amy works with teams across New Zealand and now Australia. She shares practical tools from her Emerging Leaders Programme, including: Why leadership is 80% psychology and 20% skill The heart emoji that came up in an exit interview, and what it taught Amy about leading across ages and channels How to make conflict healthy, and "kill the monster while it's little" Why new leaders dive in and do the work, and how that pattern leads to burnout as teams grow Clearing the runway: how leaders spot and remove roadblocks, including when the roadblock is them Why you should build the leader before the role exists The mindset trap of only training people who are underperforming Why time and energy matter as much as money for business owners If you're a business owner trying to grow leaders who take ownership, keep good people longer, or get your time back, this episode is well worth your time. Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE . A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI. If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights. Connect with us: Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE. Follow Digital Influence… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-4-business-5635283/episodes/clear-the-runway-how-to-turn-top-performers-into-great-leaders/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-4-business-5635283/clear-the-runway-how-to-turn-top-performers-into-great-leaders.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.