# 1579: Kabbalistic Biology and the Hidden Dimensions of Life with Dr. Michael Kosoy Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketer-of-the-day-with-robert-plank-business-growth-entrepreneur-stories-315720/1579-kabbalistic-biology-and-the-hidden-dimensions-of-life-with-dr-michael-kosoy Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketer-of-the-day-with-robert-plank-business-growth-entrepreneur-stories-315720/1579-kabbalistic-biology-and-the-hidden-dimensions-of-life-with-dr-michael-kosoy.md Podcast: [Marketer of the Day with Robert Plank: Business Growth & Entrepreneur Stories](https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketer-of-the-day-with-robert-plank-business-growth-entrepreneur-stories-315720) Published: 2026-05-10T03:00:38+00:00 Episode link: https://www.robertplank.com/1579-invisible-biology-michael-kosoy/ Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/robertplank/MOTD_1579_01.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketer-of-the-day-with-robert-plank-business-growth-entrepreneur-stories-315720/episodes/1579-kabbalistic-biology-and-the-hidden-dimensions-of-life-with-dr-michael-kosoy Duration seconds: 1354 ## Resource From zoonotic infectious diseases to Kabbalistic metaphysics, Dr. Michael Kosoy argues that modern biology is missing something critical: the invisible dimensions of life that our instruments can’t measure, but that still shape health, disease, and ecosystems. A retired but still-active CDC infectious disease researcher with over 200 scientific publications, Dr. Kosoy joins us to unpack his book “The 10 Dimensions of Kabbalistic Biology (Abridged Edition)” and explain why more data doesn’t always mean more knowledge sometimes, it actually increases uncertainty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLIiLf3Swo We explore how his decades at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, his work on zoonotic diseases, and his long-term study of Kabbalah came together into a new framework he calls Kabbalistic biology. Dr. Kosoy explains why traditional, dualistic thinking in science breaks down when we confront real-world complexity (like the pandemic), how invisible structures, hierarchies, and “unknowns” still follow patterns, and why we need better tools for orienting ourselves in a fast-changing, paradox-filled world. If you’re curious about holistic science, invisible biology, microbiomes, pandemics, and the intersection of spirituality and rigorous research, this conversation offers a practical, and surprisingly grounded toolbox for thinking differently about life itself. Quotes: “The more data and more information we collect, the more uncertainty we create.” “Instead of useless debates between reductionists and holists, I propose a system for orientation between those two extremes.” “First dimension is what I call segmentation to unification—it’s your choice as an investigator to select how complex you want to see the system.” Contact Details: Connect with Dr. Michael K… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketer-of-the-day-with-robert-plank-business-growth-entrepreneur-stories-315720/episodes/1579-kabbalistic-biology-and-the-hidden-dimensions-of-life-with-dr-michael-kosoy/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketer-of-the-day-with-robert-plank-business-growth-entrepreneur-stories-315720/1579-kabbalistic-biology-and-the-hidden-dimensions-of-life-with-dr-michael-kosoy.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.