# When “Business as Usual” Isn’t Normal Anymore with Devin Reed

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Published: 2026-02-23T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://make-it-happen-mondays.captivate.fm/episode/devin-reed-2026
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## Resource

This episode is different. Devin Reed returns to the podcast—but this time, it’s not about content strategy, marketing tactics, or growth frameworks. It’s about something far more personal and far more relevant. After posting a powerful message about how “business as usual” feels disconnected from reality right now, Devin made a conscious decision to stop staying quiet. That post sparked this conversation. Together, John and Devin unpack what it means to: Speak up without becoming divisive Use your platform responsibly Navigate uncertainty without pretending everything is fine Find your voice when you’re not sure what to say Lead with integrity in emotionally charged times This is a raw, thoughtful discussion about privilege, responsibility, fear of backlash, and the tension between staying silent and standing for something. It’s not about politics. It’s about humanity. It’s about leadership. If you’ve been feeling the disconnect… If you’ve been unsure how to show up… If you’ve been wrestling with whether to speak or stay quiet… This conversation might help you find clarity—and maybe even a little courage. Are you interested in leveling up your sales skills and staying relevant in today’s AI-driven landscape? Visit www.jbarrows.com and let’s Make It Happen together! Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarrows/ Connect with John on IG: https://www.instagram.com/johnmbarrows/ Check out John's Membership: https://go.jbarrows.com/pages/individual-membership?ref=3edab1 Join John's Newsletter: https://www.jbarrows.com/newsletter Connect with Devin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinreed/ Check out Devin's Website: https://www.thereeder.co/

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