# AI Agents, False Productivity, and the Sales Team Reset with Gabe Larsen Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/ai-agents-false-productivity-and-the-sales-team-reset-with-gabe-larsen Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/ai-agents-false-productivity-and-the-sales-team-reset-with-gabe-larsen.md Podcast: [Make It Happen Mondays - B2B Sales Talk with John Barrows](https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155) Published: 2026-07-06T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://make-it-happen-mondays.captivate.fm/episode/ai-agents-false-productivity-and-the-sales-team-reset-with-gabe-larsen Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c5cdf81d-f57d-4772-8e59-894b308293ed.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/episodes/ai-agents-false-productivity-and-the-sales-team-reset-with-gabe-larsen Duration seconds: 3014 ## Resource AI is everywhere in sales right now, but very little of it is actually moving the number. In this episode, John sits down with Gabe Larsen, CRO of Atonom, to dig into what is real, what is hype, and where AI is actually creating measurable ROI. Gabe walks through the SaaS golden age, the false positives it created, the rise of digital employees, and why most teams are still confusing efficiency with results. If you are trying to figure out where AI agents belong in your sales process, this conversation gives you a practical way to think about it: stop chasing every research bot, map the process first, and only automate the work that actually creates revenue or reduces cost. Want to reset your sales team before the market moves on without you? Visit www.jbarrows.com and learn how you can Make It Happen . What You’ll Learn Why saving time with AI is not the same as creating measurable business impact Where Gabe is seeing AI produce real ROI across coding, customer service, SDR work, and recruiting Why perfect prep docs and research bots still fail when reps lack the fundamentals How digital employees could change the way sales and customer-facing teams operate Why GTM leaders need to map the process before buying another AI tool Gabe Larsen is the CRO of Atonom, an AI company building always-on AI agents, with a career spanning leadership roles at Kustomer, Meta, and InsideSales.com, where he previously served as VP of Growth and hosted the company's Sales Secrets podcast. He's known for an unconventional, science-driven approach to sales — one that's helped him close major deals and train thousands of reps to replicate his results. Check out Atonom at atonom.ai to see how AI agents can run your work end-to-end. Follow Atonom on social media to stay up to date: Li: https… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/episodes/ai-agents-false-productivity-and-the-sales-team-reset-with-gabe-larsen/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/ai-agents-false-productivity-and-the-sales-team-reset-with-gabe-larsen.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.