# Kogon v. Google with Sam Kogon

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Podcast: [Major Label Debut](https://stenobird.com/podcast/major-label-debut-7056506)
Published: 2026-06-15T10:00:03+00:00
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Duration seconds: 5565

## Resource

Standing at the usual Major Label Debut intersection of art and commerce, Graham is joined by musician and composer Sam Kogon to discuss the darkening sky in the shadow of the rapidly expanding “AI overpass” and how to cope with the slop dripping down from above. As a leading voice in intellectual property litigation and advocate for the protection of music creators, Sam shares his perspective on the generative AI landscape and what we lose when we abdicate creative expression to technology. Also, mock duck. 📻🎚️ Sam Kogon “I Could Never” (2:35) “America” (1:13:03) Wanna watch MLD on YouTube ? Need an MLD t-shirt or mug ? And everything else from Major Label Debut !

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