# #394: "Technology Is NOT the Future of Education" - The CEO of 36 Schools, Alan Williamson on Education, Leadership & Sacrifice Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/made-in-dubai-with-spencer-lodge-1158354/394-technology-is-not-the-future-of-education-the-ceo-of-36-schools-alan-williamson-on-education-leadership-sacrifice Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/made-in-dubai-with-spencer-lodge-1158354/394-technology-is-not-the-future-of-education-the-ceo-of-36-schools-alan-williamson-on-education-leadership-sacrifice.md Podcast: [Made in Dubai with Spencer Lodge](https://stenobird.com/podcast/made-in-dubai-with-spencer-lodge-1158354) Published: 2026-04-20T09:41:00+00:00 Episode link: https://spencerlodge.libsyn.com/394technology-is-not-the-future-of-education-the-ceo-of-36-schools-inalanwilliamsonon-education-leadership-sacrifice Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/spencerlodge/Full_Audio_-_Alan_Williamson_-_Made_in_Dubai-.mp3?dest-id=974060 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/made-in-dubai-with-spencer-lodge-1158354/episodes/394-technology-is-not-the-future-of-education-the-ceo-of-36-schools-alan-williamson-on-education-leadership-sacrifice Duration seconds: 5712 ## Resource He grew up on a council housing estate in the Shetland Islands. His family were coal miners and civil servants. He had no connections, no privilege, and no clear path. Today, he runs one of the UAE's largest education groups — 36 schools, 36 nurseries, 50,000 students, and a publicly listed company worth over a billion dirhams. In this episode, Spencer sits down with Alan Williamson , CEO of Taaleem, for one of the most refreshingly honest conversations about education, leadership, and the cost of ambition. Alan doesn't sugarcoat anything. He'll tell you that technology is not the future of education. That exam should be deleted overnight. That his biggest leadership flaw is not listening. And that for all his professional success, the person he feels he's let down most is his whole family. From navigating a regional geopolitical crisis to making bold billion-dirham acquisitions, from the rugby field that gave him confidence to the boardroom decisions that kept him up at night, this is a conversation about what it really takes to lead at the highest level and what it quietly costs you. Whether you're a parent choosing a school, a leader questioning your own values, or someone who built everything from nothing and wonders if it was worth it, this episode will make you think. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introducing Alan and what makes him different from most CEOs 01:15 – What is Taaleem? 36 schools, 50,000 students, and a 21-year story 03:42 – How Dubai's inspection system turbocharges school quality like nowhere else in the world 07:53 – The international teacher recruitment crisis and why Dubai still wins 11:52 – How to actually choose the right school for your child in Dubai 17:48 – Are UAE school fees good value ? The honest comparison with UK independent schools 22:22 – Lea… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/made-in-dubai-with-spencer-lodge-1158354/episodes/394-technology-is-not-the-future-of-education-the-ceo-of-36-schools-alan-williamson-on-education-leadership-sacrifice/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/made-in-dubai-with-spencer-lodge-1158354/394-technology-is-not-the-future-of-education-the-ceo-of-36-schools-alan-williamson-on-education-leadership-sacrifice.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.