# Yesha Yadav, Chris Odinet, and Andrea Tosato on the Moneyness of Stablecoins Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/macro-musings-with-david-beckworth-574582/yesha-yadav-chris-odinet-and-andrea-tosato-on-the-moneyness-of-stablecoins Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/macro-musings-with-david-beckworth-574582/yesha-yadav-chris-odinet-and-andrea-tosato-on-the-moneyness-of-stablecoins.md Podcast: [Macro Musings with David Beckworth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/macro-musings-with-david-beckworth-574582) Published: 2026-06-29T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://macromusings.libsyn.com/yesha-yadav-chris-odinet-and-andrea-tosato-on-the-moneyness-of-stablecoins Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/macromusings/MM-549-YeshaChrisAndrea-AudioFinal.mp3?dest-id=865793 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/macro-musings-with-david-beckworth-574582/episodes/yesha-yadav-chris-odinet-and-andrea-tosato-on-the-moneyness-of-stablecoins Duration seconds: 4291 ## Resource Yesha Yadav is a professor of law, the Milton R. Underwood Chair, the Associate Dean & Robert Belton Director of Culture & Community, and the Co-Faculty Director, Master of Laws (LL.M) Program at the Vanderbilt University Law School. Chris Odinet is a professor of law, Mosbacher Research Fellow, and Affiliate Professor of Finance at Texas A&M University School of Law. Andrea Tosato is professor of law at the Southern Methodist University Dedman School of Law. Yesha, Chris, and Andrea join the show to discuss their avenues into stablecoin regulation, their four-part definition of moneyness (nature of the claim, safety, discharge capacity, and negotiability), how Tether and Circle stack up to these definitions, the stablecoin bankruptcy conundrum, the progress the GENIUS Act made on closing legal loopholes, their prescriptions for policymakers, and much more. Watch the full length video on our new YouTube Channel! Check out the transcript for this week's episode, now with links. Recorded on May 20th, 2026 Subscribe to David's Substack: Macroeconomic Policy Nexus Follow David on X: @DavidBeckworth Follow Chris on X: @ChisOdinet Follow Andrea on X: @Andrea_Tosato Follow the show on X: @Macro_Musings Check out our Macro Musings merch! Timestamps 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:26 - Career Backgrounds of Chris, Yesha, and Andrea 00:02:35 - Background on the Paper 00:06:52 - Structure of Money 00:17:33 - Moneyness: Nature of the Claim 00:22:37 - Moneyness: Safety 00:23:45 - Moneyness: Discharge Capacity 00:30:50 - Moneyness: Negotiability 00:31:55 - How Stablecoins Currently Hold Up in Moneyness 00:58:18 - Recommendations to Policymakers 01:10:51 - Outro ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/macro-musings-with-david-beckworth-574582/episodes/yesha-yadav-chris-odinet-and-andrea-tosato-on-the-moneyness-of-stablecoins/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/macro-musings-with-david-beckworth-574582/yesha-yadav-chris-odinet-and-andrea-tosato-on-the-moneyness-of-stablecoins.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.