# Beyond Copilot- How to Make AI Transformation Actually Stick with Femke Cornelissen [MVP] Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214/beyond-copilot-how-to-make-ai-transformation-actually-stick-with-femke-cornelissen-mvp Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214/beyond-copilot-how-to-make-ai-transformation-actually-stick-with-femke-cornelissen-mvp.md Podcast: [M365.FM - Modern work, security, and productivity with Microsoft 365](https://stenobird.com/podcast/m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214) Published: 2026-07-22T13:00:03+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/beyond-copilot-how-to-make-ai-transformation-actually-stick-with-femke-cornelissen-mvp--73103133 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73103133/beyond_copilot_how_to_make_ai_transformation_actually_stick_with_femke_cornelissen_mvp.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214/episodes/beyond-copilot-how-to-make-ai-transformation-actually-stick-with-femke-cornelissen-mvp Duration seconds: 3356 ## Resource Artificial Intelligence is transforming the workplace faster than any previous technology wave. Yet despite massive investments in Microsoft 365 Copilot, AI agents, and automation, many organizations still struggle to create measurable business value. Technology itself is rarely the problem. The real challenge lies in leadership, culture, governance, and redesigning the way people work. In this episode of M365.fm, Mirko Peters welcomes Femke Cornelissen [MVP], Chief Technology Transformation Officer at Wortell and one of the Netherlands' most influential voices in Microsoft AI transformation. Femke shares practical insights from helping organizations move beyond AI experimentation into sustainable business transformation powered by Microsoft technologies. WHY AI TRANSFORMATION STARTS WITH PEOPLE, NOT TECHNOLOGY Many companies believe AI transformation begins with deploying Microsoft Copilot or building custom AI agents. Femke argues that this mindset is fundamentally flawed. Successful transformation starts with people, leadership, organizational culture, and a clear business strategy. Organizations often allow every employee to build personal AI workflows independently. While experimentation is valuable, it can quickly lead to disconnected solutions, duplicated work, inconsistent governance, and little measurable business impact. Instead, organizations need a shared vision that aligns AI initiatives with strategic business outcomes and creates collaboration rather than isolated innovation. FROM COPILOT TO ENTERPRISE AI STRATEGY A recurring theme throughout the discussion is that Copilot should never be viewed as simply another productivity tool. Instead, it should become the foundation for redesigning business processes across departments. Femke explains how executive… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214/episodes/beyond-copilot-how-to-make-ai-transformation-actually-stick-with-femke-cornelissen-mvp/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214/beyond-copilot-how-to-make-ai-transformation-actually-stick-with-femke-cornelissen-mvp.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.