# The Scorpion and The Cube with Ollie Beeks

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Published: 2026-05-25T10:30:00+00:00
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View all cards mentioned in this episode Andy and Anthony are joined by Cube Person of the Year 2024, Ollie, to talk about whether it’s irresponsible to present a cube for drafting without any playtesting. What is the difference between ‘playing’ and ‘playtesting’? Can you design a cube iteratively without playtesting? Just how bad can a cube really be? Discussed in this episode: Upkeep NY/C4AC Bodlean Cube Creatureless Cube Episode 302 — Theory Drafting the Best Decks in Regular Cube The Ball Pit Episode 206 — The Joy of Gaming with Richard Garfield 100 Ornithopters Marina Abramovic - The Artist is Present (2010) Boston Cube Party If you’d like to show your support for the show, please consider backing Lucky Paper on Patreon or leaving us a review on iTunes or wherever you listen. Check us out on Twitch and YouTube for paper Cube gameplay. You can find the hosts’ Cubes on Cube Cobra: Andy’s “Bun Magic” Cube Anthony’s “Regular” Cube You can find both your hosts in the MTG Cube Talk Discord . Send in questions to the show at mail@luckypaper.co or our p.o. box: Lucky Paper PO Box 4855 Baltimore, MD 21211 Musical production by DJ James Nasty . Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 3:41 - Secret Project: Obscura 9:13 - Playtesting 16:46 - The Case Against Playtesting 21:03 - Non-Playtest Data 23:09 - The Process 29:45 - Playing Vs Playtesting 35:17 - Cube First Impressions 43:33 - Expectations 47:28 - Designing for an Experience 52:10 - Marina Abramovic and Artistic Intent 58:26 - Logistics

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