# Episode 340: Thankful In, Not For - Mikael's Mom

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Podcast: [Losing a Child: Always Andy's Mom](https://stenobird.com/podcast/losing-a-child-always-andy-s-mom-252545)
Published: 2026-03-19T13:04:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Always Andy's Mom , I sit down with Leanne, Mikael's mom, for an honest and heartfelt conversation about grief, faith, and life after losing a child to addiction. At the center of this episode is a powerful shift in perspective. After her son's death, Leanne struggled with the words "give thanks in all circumstances." But when reading the words more carefully, she noticed a subtle difference that shifted her understanding. She began to see the difference between being thankful for her circumstances and being thankful in them. Leanne shares her experience loving her son through addiction, the heartbreak of loss, and the reality of grieving a child. She speaks about the tension between faith and pain, and how grief becomes something that stays, rather than something to overcome. In this episode, we talk about: Child loss and grief after addiction and overdose The meaning of "thankful in , not for " Grief as an ongoing presence in daily life Faith, anger, and healing after loss Writing and poetry as tools for processing grief Leanne also shares about her new book, Tattered Hearts and Hopeful Souls , a collection of devotional reflections and poetry that explores grief, faith, and healing. Her writing offers comfort and language for bereaved parents navigating life after loss. This episode is a reminder that grief does not disappear. But over time, we can learn how to carry it. And even in the hardest circumstances, there can still be moments of meaning, connection, and quiet gratitude.

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