# Stephen Grosz & Helen MacDonald: Love’s Labour

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Podcast: [London Review Bookshop Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/london-review-bookshop-podcast-169718)
Published: 2026-04-15T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In his bestselling debut The Examined Life psychoanalyst Stephen Grosz explored how we learn to live. Now in Love’s Labour (Chatto) he turns to the equally perplexing topic of how we love. Drawing on over forty years of candid and surprising conversations with his patients, Stephen Grosz asks, what gets in the way of our falling in love? And what must we do to stay there? Grosz was in conversation with Helen Macdonald, author of H is for Hawk and Vesper Flights. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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