# Is your phone listening to you? (feat. Lena Cohen) (re-air)

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Podcast: [Lock and Code](https://stenobird.com/podcast/lock-and-code-112850)
Published: 2026-02-08T18:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://lock-and-code.captivate.fm/episode/is-your-phone-listening-to-you-feat-lena-cohen-re-air
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## Resource

In January, Google settled a lawsuit that pricked up a few ears: It agreed to  pay $68 million  to a wide array of people who sued the company together, alleging that Google’s voice-activated smart assistant had secretly recorded their conversations, which were then sent to advertisers to target them with promotions. Google denied any admission of wrongdoing in the settlement agreement, but the fact stands that one of the largest phone makers in the world decided to forego a trial against some potentially explosive surveillance allegations. It’s a decision that the public has already seen in the past, when Apple agreed to  pay $95 million last year to settle similar legal claims against its smart assistant, Siri . Back-to-back, the stories raise a question that just seems to never go away: Are our phones listening to us? This week, on the Lock and Code podcast with host David Ruiz, we revisit an episode from last year in which we tried to find the answer. In speaking to Electronic Frontier Foundation Staff Technologist Lena Cohen about mobile tracking overall, it becomes clear that, even if our phones aren’t literally listening to our conversations, the devices are stuffed with so many novel forms of surveillance that we need not say something out loud to be predictably targeted with ads for it. “Companies are collecting so much information about us and in such covert ways that it really feels like they’re listening to us.” Tune in today. You can also find us on  Apple Podcasts ,  Spotify , and whatever preferred podcast platform you use. For all our cybersecurity coverage, visit Malwarebytes Labs at malwarebytes.com/blog . Show notes and credits: Intro Music: “Spellbound” by Kevin MacLeod ( incompetech.com ) Licensed under Creative Commons: By…

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