# S2E4: Julie Dolan on Being More Julie, Making + Keeping Friends

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Published: 2025-09-25T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On today's episode, Liz's older sister Julie Dolan on David Brooks' theory of resume virtues vs eulogy virtues, her expertise at making and keeping friends plus unsolicited advice for Leah about moving. Gotta get rid of the boxes. Also drifting vs vibing. Julie's recommendation: The Road To Character by David Brooks Lizness School Movie Challeng e - An Intergenerational Cultural Exchange. For the next episode, Liz and Leah will watch Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union .  To use their $620 New Member offer, go to  sfcu.org/lizness Homework: For listeners who are interested in learning more about Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute or potentially applying, applications are open now through December 1 for the Class entering Fall 2026. There are 2 Virtual Information sessions this fall. More info and registration here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScnnMvgAXt0AWL6sP5FtkaKjKbOB_X8rgn2ai6p9jms3N9PpQ/viewform Interested in Corporate Alumni Networks ? More here . Leah's YouTube recommendation : How To Stop WorryingWhether Or Not They Like You If you are new to Lizness School , we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild. To listen to Liz +. Leah's  recap of Lizness School Season 1 , go to our  FINALE here . For more on Liz Dolan, go to  ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠  and  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On…

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