# Brian McElhaney & Nick Kocher (BriTANicK)

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Podcast: [Living To Write](https://stenobird.com/podcast/living-to-write-5781823)
Published: 2026-04-08T03:33:10+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/livingforwriting-storysummit/2707013
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## Resource

Brian McElhaney and Nick Kocher of BriTANicK fame sit down with Brian and Bailey for a deep dive into how and why they write. How is their collaboration like an open romantic relationship? What were the writers’ rooms on It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Saturday Night Live like? How can a detailed outline save your screenplay before you even start writing? How is effective pitching much more than just describing your project well? And what did they learn from their time in the director’s chairs? And why are Brian and Brian so happy about the spelling of their names? After over 18 years working together—and with their directorial debut Pizza Movie now streaming on Hulu and Disney+, and Over Your Dead Body hitting theaters April 24th—Brian and Nick have plenty to share. Produced by Brian Landwehr and Bailey Patterson.

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