# Chris Hartman

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Podcast: [Living OUT Loud Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/living-out-loud-podcast-6581694)
Published: 2026-02-18T08:15:00+00:00
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## Resource

What does fairness look like when it’s lived, not just legislated? I’m joined by Chris Hartman, CEO of the Fairness Campaign, for a deeply human conversation about building bridges, leading with empathy, and advancing LGBTQ equality across Kentucky, from small Appalachian towns to the state capital. The conversation with Chris Hartman covers the journey of self-discovery, coming out, building community, the impact of LGBTQ protections, career trajectory, and the importance of human stories in advocacy. Key takeaways include the importance of family support and the resilience of the LGBTQ community. The conversation covers a range of topics, including advocacy for inclusive opportunities, the impact of fairness and backlash, the future of fairness and progress, changing hearts and minds, personal growth and advocacy, the proliferation of pride festivals, balancing work and personal life, the North Star of trans rights and intersectionality, Kentucky's LGBTQ community and culture, personal insights and preferences, the influence of fairness and intersectionality, personal struggles and triumphs, and the significance of music and authentic living. #podcast #livingOUTloud Takeaways Family support Community resilience Supporting trans rights is a key focus The importance of living authentically Chapters 00:00 The Journey to Self-Discovery 08:15 Building Community and Advocacy 17:03 Career Trajectory and Nonprofit Work 22:35 Human Stories and Advocacy 43:25 Music and Authentic Living

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