# forget happiness, JENNIFER WALLACE thinks mattering is the key to a life well lived

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Podcast: [Lives Well Lived](https://stenobird.com/podcast/lives-well-lived-6893855)
Published: 2026-02-05T05:44:00+00:00
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## Resource

Jennifer Wallace is an American journalist and author best known for her book Never Enough: When Achievement Culture Becomes Toxic—and What We Can Do About It , which explores how high-pressure achievement environments impact mental health. Jennifer explores the concept of 'mattering' and distinguishes the difference between self-esteem and mattering. Keep up to date with Peter on Substack Keep up to date with Kasia! Executive Producer: Rachel Barrett special thanks to Suzi Jamil! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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