# Bankole Thompson: The Strength in Humility

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Podcast: [Live from the Next Chapter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/live-from-the-next-chapter-7863992)
Published: 2026-07-13T00:40:03+00:00
Episode link: https://danloepp.substack.com/p/bankole-thompson-the-strength-in
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## Resource

Bankole Thompson has learned from some remarkable mentors. Ambassador George Haley, Sam Logan, and Archbishop Desmond Tutu all shaped how he understands what leadership requires. In this episode, Dan sits down with the Detroit journalist, author, and founding dean and editor-in-chief of the PuLSE Institute to talk about what those relationships taught him: that leadership rests on humility, grace, and the willingness to listen. Bankole shares stories from a journey that took him from Gambia to Detroit, including encounters with figures like Barack Obama, and what those moments revealed about the qualities that separate good leaders from great ones. He and Dan explore how adversity becomes strength, why mentorship shapes leaders more than titles do, and what it means to measure a career by service rather than recognition. The episode opens with Dan and Michael Patrick Shiels on a lesson every leader eventually learns: never be the smartest person in the room. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danloepp.substack.com

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