# The United States of Claude: Government Bans Fable 5

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Podcast: [Limitless: An AI Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/limitless-an-ai-podcast-7326914)
Published: 2026-06-16T12:31:10+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/13935166
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## Resource

This is a turning point for AI. Today, we discuss Anthropic’s release and quick withdrawal of its Fable 5 and Mythos 5 AI models after a U.S. export-control notice raised national security concerns. We also cover the reported jailbreak, Amazon’s role in escalating the issue, and what the episode suggests about government involvement in access to frontier AI models. ------ 🌌 LIMITLESS HQ ⬇️ NEWSLETTER: https://limitlessft.substack.com/ FOLLOW ON X: https://x.com/LimitlessFT SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/5oV29YUL8AzzwXkxEXlRMQ APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/limitless-podcast/id1813210890 RSS FEED: https://limitlessft.substack.com/ ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:16 The Government Pulls Fable 5:26 Frontier Goes Backward 9:36 Amazon Sounds the Alarm 11:33 Types of Jailbreaks 14:55 Frontier Labs Logic 18:00 Politics and Security 27:29 History Is Happening Now ------ RESOURCES Josh: https://x.com/JoshKale Ejaaz: https://x.com/cryptopunk7213 ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠ Josh works with Anthropic as a contractor. All views expressed are his own and do not represent Anthropic, its leadership, or its affiliates. Nothing in this episode is investment advice.

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