# Episode 27: ASID Chair David Euscher: Making the Case for Lighting Specialists

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Published: 2025-12-02T09:00:00+00:00
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What's the connection between lighting control systems, circadian rhythm, and designing for neurodivergent building occupants? David Euscher, national board chair for the American Society of Interior Designers (ASID) and interior designer based in Houston, discusses the critical relationship between interior design and lighting with hosts Lisa Reed of Reed Burkett Lighting Design and Avi Mor of Morelites. Can you really design a space without considering how light reveals it? The conversation explores professional licensure challenges, the 2014 friendship agreement between ASID, IES, and IALD, and strategies for bringing lighting professionals onto project teams early. Euscher shares compelling project stories, including work on Texas Children's Hospital where lighting designers fundamentally changed how dimensional spheres were illuminated. The discussion addresses human health standards, ASID's annual Trends Outlook Report, and why creating variety in lighting environments matters for both neurotypical and neurodivergent building occupants. (00:00) David Euscher's interior design career and role as ASID national board chair (05:56) Collaboration between ASID, IES, and IALD - the four visual design disciplines (13:41) Professional licensure and making the case for lighting specialists (22:27) Daylight automation, control systems, and human health standards (30:09) Project stories - Texas Children's Hospital and historic renovations (34:50) Favorite illuminated spaces - Nasher and Kimbell Art Museums Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into…

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