# LIGHT TALK Episode 488 - "Dealing with Unstable Crazy - Our Conversation with Mark Ravenhill"

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Published: 2026-08-12T04:09:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3141

## Resource

In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers and Sister interview the Director of German Lighting Products, Mark Ravenhill. Join Mark, Ellen, David, Dennis, and Steve, as they discuss: The "EVEN" program; Flashbacks to days in Ft. Lauderdale with Martin Professional; David reminses about working with Gary Mass and Jorge Valdez; What technology will be driving new lighting fixtures; The story behind the X5 Dot; How the tariffs affect lighting equipment companies; How manufacturers deal with unsold equipment; The Edsel of lighting equipment; The "10 out of 10" Podcast; The "Juliette Console"; Finding "The Holy Grail" for the Lighting industry; and Where to eat in Nashville. Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense. @lighttalkpodcast

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