# LIGHT TALK Episode 482 - "The Ultimate Team Sport - Our Conversation with David Grill"

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Podcast: [Light Talk with The Lumen Brothers](https://stenobird.com/podcast/light-talk-with-the-lumen-brothers-5969508)
Published: 2026-07-01T04:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3656

## Resource

In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers and Sister interview Lighting Designer David Grill. Join David, Ellen, Dennis, and Steve, as they discuss: Finding your first job; Why it took 37 years to get to Broadway; Working at Radio City; Working with Ken; Getting into Dance; "My Son is a Lighting Designer!"; Choreographing with Light; Stories from Designing the Superbowl Halftime Show; Sleeping under a Tarp; Working with new lighting technology; Luring one into the visual picture; What David did during the Pandemic; The University of Klages; Becoming a Good Teacher; and Advice for young theatre lighting designers. Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.

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