# LIGHT TALK Episode 480 - "The Holy Moment of Darkness - Our Conversation with Isabella Byrd"

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Published: 2026-06-16T03:45:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers and Sister interview Broadway Lighting Designer Isabella Byrd. Join Isabella, Ellen, Dennis, Steve, and David, as they discuss: Attending this year's Tony Awards Show; Jules Fischer's Lifetime Achievement Award; Historic Firsts; "No Boys Allowed"; Qween Jean; Lighting Theatre in the Round; Lighting "Caberet"; The story of DOTS; How union contracts are adapted for multiple designers working as a collective; Freelancers' rights; The difference between Europe and North America in the way theatre artists get paid; "The Most"; A "Production Design" Tony award category; Bringing Caberet to our time; "Designing the Dark": "Less is Less so that More can become More"; Discovering the power of "...At Full"; "It's all about contrast"; "Trusting the less"; Being the "squeeky wheel"; Early inspiring mentors in "The School of Hard Knocks"; Asking questions; and Advice for young designers. Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.

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