# LIGHT TALK Episode 459 - "Be Tenacious and Nice - Our Conversation with Jeff Nellis"

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Podcast: [Light Talk with The Lumen Brothers](https://stenobird.com/podcast/light-talk-with-the-lumen-brothers-5969508)
Published: 2026-01-17T05:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3190

## Resource

In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers and Sister interview renowned lighting designer, Jeff Nellis. In this episode, Jeff, Ellen, Steve, and Dennis discuss: Getting into the business; Early High School lighting connections; Working in the Sphere; Using Virtual Lighting; Williamstown Theatre Festival; Working with "Screamers"; Working in Ken Billington's studio; Aqua-Marine and Salmon; Tales from "The Wall of Flops"; Jeff's first Broadway show, "Primate"; UVLD, Industrials, and the corporate world; "Dramatic Design Without the Drama"; Choosing color temnperature for corporate branding; and IMAG; and Advice for young designers wanting to get into the corporate lighting world. Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.

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