# The Science of Thriving Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-death-the-space-between-with-dr-amy-robbins-337526/the-science-of-thriving Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-death-the-space-between-with-dr-amy-robbins-337526/the-science-of-thriving.md Podcast: [Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins](https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-death-the-space-between-with-dr-amy-robbins-337526) Published: 2026-02-23T11:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/life-death-and-the-space-between-1/episodes/the-science-of-thriving Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/64e91649bd2b550010b110fe/e/6999e89d0e5c959d599472c5/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/life-death-the-space-between-with-dr-amy-robbins-337526/episodes/the-science-of-thriving Duration seconds: 3046 ## Resource Today, I’m talking with Jon Rosemberg. He spent decades climbing the corporate ladder, closing massive deals, and achieving everything we’re told will make us happy. But his real wake-up call didn’t come in a boardroom—it happened on his basement floor, building Legos with his kids. In this powerful conversation, Jon breaks down the difference between success and true thriving, and shares the science-backed map to reclaim your agency, find meaning, and reconnect with what actually matters. 00:00 From Survival Mode to Thriving 02:43 Jon's Family History of Survival 04:37 Defining Success vs. Thriving 06:58 The Lego Epiphany: A Wake-Up Call 11:51 The Breadcrumbs Leading to Change 14:59 The Spiral of Survival and Thriving 18:25 The AIR Method: Awareness, Inquiry, Reframing 23:59 Real-Life Example: Reframing Failure 29:38 Defining Transcendence and Spirituality 33:37 Clients and Kids as Spiritual Teachers 37:15 Integrating Transcendent Experiences 43:05 Small Steps to Start Thriving Today 48:21 Where to Find Jon and His Book Learn more about Jon Rosemberg: Website:  jonrosemberg.com Book: "A Guide to Thriving" LinkedIn: @JonRosemberg JOIN MY COMMUNITY   In The Space Between membership, you’ll get access to LIVE quarterly Ask Amy Anything meetings (not offered anywhere else!), discounts on courses, special giveaways, and a place to connect with Amy and other like-minded people. You’ll also get exclusive access to other behind-the-scenes goodness when you join!   Click here to find out more --> https://shorturl.at/vVrwR   Stay Connected:   -          Instagram - https://tinyurl.com/ysvafdwc -          Facebook - https://tinyurl.com/yc3z48v9 -   … ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/life-death-the-space-between-with-dr-amy-robbins-337526/episodes/the-science-of-thriving/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-death-the-space-between-with-dr-amy-robbins-337526/the-science-of-thriving.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.