# Leading Christian Organizations Through Change (featuring Tami Heim)

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Podcast: [Life After Ministry](https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611)
Published: 2026-03-31T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Leadership often looks clear in hindsight, but confusing in the moment. For Tami Heim, the journey into leadership began with a dramatic shift in ambition. Just days after graduating college, she surrendered her plans to follow Christ, stepping into a life where leadership was no longer about advancement but obedience. Over the next several decades, that calling would lead her through massive corporate change, cultural disruption, and deeply personal trials. From navigating retail mergers during the rise of Amazon to leading during national crises and personal loss, each moment shaped how she understands faith, leadership, and God’s faithfulness. Today, as president and CEO of the Christian Leadership Alliance, Tami helps equip leaders across more than 125 countries. In this conversation, she shares how leaders can seek God in uncertainty, navigate disruption, and lead with both competence and spiritual depth. This episode is an invitation to rediscover leadership as an adventure with God rather than a platform to control. Key Takeaways Leadership growth often comes through disruption and difficulty, not comfort God’s faithfulness becomes clearer after walking through multiple seasons of crisis Spiritual formation is just as critical as leadership competency Healthy leadership requires wise guides, side guides, and gospel community Seeking God together as a team can transform how organizations navigate uncertainty Identity must remain rooted in Christ rather than in leadership roles Strong leadership transitions require trust in God’s timing and openness to what comes next Chapter Markers 00:00 — Introduction to Tami Heim 02:08 — Management, stewardship, and leadership 04:42 — Being saved from personal ambition 07:06 — Business as ministry before it was common 09:57 —…

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